Titan has awoken from 35 year sleep

Whit · Post by **Whit** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:54 am

Got my Titan running for the first time this morning. On the first start I held the oil pump in the full open position. After about 2 minutes two of the lines filled up with oil. The other two lines do not have oil in them. Is this a bad union bolt or does two of the lines use less oil and therefore take longer to fill up? Scared to drive it until I figure this one out.
Thanks,
Pat

Whit · Post by **Whit** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:02 pm

Well finally after about 10 minutes I now have oil in all four lines. One line still has a bubble but I guess it work it self out. I put a gallon of premix in I feel I should be okay to go straight gas after the last bubble disappears. First ride of a Titan felt good. ///Pat

Post by **oldjapanesebikes** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:06 pm

Congrats !! Always good to see another oil burner on the road

Wayne Meuir · Post by **Wayne Meuir** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:07 pm

Whit, good to see a 2-stroker in my neck of the woods. I grew up in Garland (many,many year ago) and now live in Lavon. Maybe by the time it gets cool, we can go for a ride. I am about to have shoulder surgery and will be out of comission for a few months.

Oh, and we'd like to see some pics of the bike.

Wayne

jkevinlilly · Post by **jkevinlilly** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:22 pm

Whoopeee!!

Another ressurection.

Kevin

rngdng · Post by **rngdng** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:10 pm

Glad to hear it!! Watch those lines for a while; if the bubble doesn't dissappear, you have an air leak.

Lane

Post by **Suzsmokeyallan** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:57 am

Pat im happy you got it up and running, as Lane suggests keep an eye on those lines.

Whit · Post by **Whit** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:00 pm

It ran excellent until yesterday afternoon. Was going up a hill and all of sudden it started to miss. Crept back home and found right cylinder was not firing. Today I swapped the plugs around and the problem moved to the left cylinder. Will buy a new set tomorrow.

Couple of things that have happened that are a little strange. First day I got it running and it ran like it just came off the showroom floor. Put about 50 miles on it. That night went to ride and as soon as I turned the headlight on it would kill the engine. Had to get up about 20mph before I could turn the light on. This battery is new. Anyway I re-charge the battery
and then with engine off it showed about 13V. At 2500 rpms it showed about 15-16V. Engine no longer cuts off when I turn the lights on. Whatever the problem it seemed to have disappeared.

Also the tach works as it should except when I put it in first gear it drops to zero (almost as if the engine is off). Once I let the clutch out and start moving it works like it should. Works great in neutral. Just takes a nap in first with the clutch in. That is the strangest thing I have ever seen.

Now I just need to recover the seat and get it painted.

Thanks everyone for your help over the past 6 months.

Special thanks to Allan. The guy knows more about Suzuki's then anyone I have ever met.

///Pat

Wayne Meuir · Post by **Wayne Meuir** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:21 am

Pat, the tach does not work with the clutch pulled in, that is normal. It is the way the tach gear is driven and its designed that way. I think the oil pump does not work with the clutch in either, but I may be mistaken on that one.

Wayne

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:03 am

Were yo still runing premix when you fouled a plug? If so it was probably the double dose of oil that was the cause. Especially if it was a heavy mix (20 - 1).

diamondj · Post by **diamondj** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:16 am

The tach and oil pump don't work with the clutch lever in.

Also, premix doesn't work on the Suzukis with oil injection pumps - there's crank swipers that keep the oil from reaching the crank bearings.

And, T500s are poor runners if the battery gets low - usually the right cylinder stops firing correctly.... Plus keep in mind the charging system is weak at it best. If you change out the 25/35 watt headlight for a 45/55 it usually starts draining the battery faster than the system can recharge it. If you plan on doing any night time riding on a T500 you can get a bi-xenon (hi/low) HID light conversion kit off of Ebay for a car for less than $100 and rig that into the T500 headlight. It only consumes 30 watts and throws a whole lot more light.....

Or you can get the alternator rewound for about $185 to give off more volts as well.....

Jim

Whit · Post by **Whit** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:26 pm

Put a timing light on it today and new plugs. Runs great. Tonight the headlight problem came back. Started the engine and turned on the lights and the engine quit. After I started riding I turned on my light and it blew. I had already blown the low beam so now I am in the dark. Oh well no riding after dark for a while until I can get this straightened out.

Post by **Suzsmokeyallan** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:45 pm

Pat was that a new bulb you had in the H.L unit ??? if not try a new one. You may need to look at the charging output again if this situation continues, also i'd suggest you put an LED bulb in the tail lamp.

Whit · Post by **Whit** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:15 pm

The headlight is probaly the original bulb. Will go with LED in rear as you suggested. My horn has now stopped working. It was working ok yesterday. Looks like I have gremlins. ///Pat

Buffalo-guy · Post by **Buffalo-guy** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:56 am

Whit.
On your earlier posting, you mentioned you were reading 13 volts at the battery, and 15-16 volts at 2500 rpm. That is too much charging, should be 14to 14.5 max!! that could explain your headlight blowing. Check the regulator. If it is a mechanical one like the triples, you may be able to correct that with a simple adjustment. Due diligence will get your bike running just great. Cheers.
Fred