Antifreeze Questions Green or Red

[deadmeat]

Any water going into the system needs to be distilled. I cant remember the brand of antifreeze, but its made for aluminum. Dont forget to add Barrs leak as well.

[jkevinlilly]

Animals only??? lots of people have also drank the sweet tasting ethylene stuff and died a horrible death as well, and they are supposed to know better.

Either works the same on people, they are animals too(some more than others), shuts down the kidneys.

Next you're drinking a Mountain Dew, read the ingredients
It contains ethylene glycol or polyethylene glycol, I cant remember which.

Lots of food stuff have some toxic ingredients, you just have to keep the overall scope in perspective. One presciption painkiller tablet just stops the pain. A whole bottle and the body stops.

The most interesting one I remember is that at one time Boone's Farm had formaldehyde in it, until they took it out due bad press.

Kevin

[bikegeezer]

This is what you will find printed on a jug of Honda's coolant for their motorcycle's:

Note: Over 95% of antifreeze/coolants on the market use silicate
inhibitors to protect against aluminum corrosion. However, the abra-
siveness of silicates may cause premature wear to mechanical water
pump seals. To prevent this problem, Honda engineers demanded a
superior corrosion inhibitor without silicates. The result is found
inside this bottle - the ultimate Hi-Performance Coolant for all
Honda liquid cooled engines.

There really isn't any problem with green until it's past its recommended change interval. That's when the silicates start to drop out of solution and damage water pump seals. But with the change in coolant formulations and the damage caused by using the wrong stuff in a vehicle, I've been using only the Honda coolant in all of my liquid cooled bikes for the past ten years or so. FYI, Honda now has a long life version, but it seems to be only found in their car dealerships.

Stu

[Coyote]

The most interesting one I remember is that at one time Boone's Farm had formaldehyde in it, until they took it out due bad press.

Kevin. Boone's Farm?? Really??? Truely rot gut wine. Right up there in the class with Ripple and Thunderbird. When I was young teen in NJ, we used to drink this crap called Tiger Rose. 20% alcohol by volume. A pint of it would make you vomitting sick every time. But in those days we were pretty durable so we drank it anyway.

[Wayne Meuir]

Four stroke dirt bikes are notorious for runnig hot. What I have in my KTM450 is Engine Ice. It is supposed to reduce the running temp by as much as 40*F. It works much like Water Wetter, but it has freeze protection that Water Wetter does not provide. It ain't cheap!

Wayne

[jkevinlilly]

Chris,
My wife liked the Boones Farm, that is how I knew about the formaldehyde. I kept telling her it was just alcoholic soda pop, never liked it. I drank mainly tequila, bourbon, and everclear (more bang for the buck). Am familiar with some other 'fine' wines, like Thunderbird and Richards Wild Irish Rose.

I'm not near as durable anymore. I tend to stay with beer and Southern Comfort. And enjoy the following mornings more.

Kevin

[rngdng]

Ripple and GingerAle; Fred Sanford's champagne. MMMMmmmmmm!!



Lane

[pjmcburney]

I'm gonna have to disagree with ya on this one -

Dont forget to add Barrs leak as well.

The reason Barr's Leak was added at the factory was as a bit of an insurance (arse-covering) policy in case there were any tiny, undetected leaks anywhere in the system.

If you're not using brand-new bits - radiator especially, or you're just doing a routine coolant change, you definitely do NOT need anymore Barr's Leak in the cooling system. Any 'leaks' would almost certainly have been sealed by the Factory addition of Barr's Leak (or Suzuki's equivalent).

The tubes in the GT radiators are quite small (approx 2-3mm wide). Barr's Leak is really designed for car and truck radiators where the tubes are significantly larger. The GT radiator will clog very easily with too much Barr's Leak, and too much is a very small amount.

Trust me on this - I've managed to clog a radiator solid with the stuff, and boy do they overheat quick when the radiator is clogged!
Since then I've had that radiator refurbished and I put the whole thing back together WITHOUT any kind of 'leak' fix, just coolant, and it doesn't leak a drop.

A properly refurbished radiator with new hoses and clamps and some relatively inexpensive pre-mixed (green) coolant is more than adequate for a GT750 engine.
I buy the cheapest stuff I can find and change it fairly often - twice a year, and I've had absolutely no dramas. It always comes out looking the same as it went in and my cooling system works a treat, I've never even come close to overheating the thing here in sub-tropical Brisbane.


Cheers
Paul

[djfisher22]

Ripple and GingerAle; Fred Sanford's champagne. MMMMmmmmmm!!
Lane

You mean Champipple.