multiculturalism has a failed

[johnakay]

this is what I've said for years and about time that some one in office has at last realize that it does not work.this our country if you like the rules then bugger off to where you came from............


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In a speech to the Munich Security Conference, the Prime Minister signaled a marked change in policy towards Britain's ethnic and religious minorities, saying the "hands-off tolerance" of those who reject Western values has failed.

He urged a "more active, muscular liberalism" where equal rights, the rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy are actively promoted to create a stronger national identity.

"If we are to defeat this threat, I believe it's time to turn the page on the failed policies of the past," he told the conference during a panel discussion attended by German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

His speech echoed controversial remarks made by Merkel last year, when she also called multiculturalism a failure, saying Germany had not devoted enough attention to the integration of immigrants.

"What I mean to say is that for years, for decades, the approach was that integration was not something that needed to be addressed, that people would live side-by-side and that it would sort itself out," Merkel said in November.

"This turned out to be false."

It was Cameron's first major speech on Islamist extremism, an issue of major concern for British governments ever since four home-grown suicide bombers attacked the London transport system in 2005, killing 52 people.

The prime minister, who took power in May 2010, argued that "under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream".

He said this had resulted in a lack of national identity in Britain which had made some young Muslims turn to extremist ideology.

"Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism," Cameron said.

"A passively tolerant society says to its citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone. It stands neutral between different values.

"A genuinely liberal country does much more. It believes in certain values and actively promotes them.... It says to its citizens: this is what defines us as a society."

Cameron clearly distinguished between Islam the religion and the political ideology of Islamist extremism, saying they "are not the same thing".

But he argued that non-violent organisations which present themselves as a gateway to the Muslim community but are ambiguous on Western values should no longer receive state funding, and should be banned from university campuses.

[Suzsmokeyallan]

Vote John for the next Brit PM but honestly John, do these people in positions of authority actually care, or even know whats wrong?
Talk is cheap, action speaks volumes, but we are talking about a politician here. So as long as they tell you they know how to fix the problems, you feel good about it and them, but in reality they never do anything and so nothing changes.
Lets see from today for example, how long it takes HIM to fix the problem, now he claims hes aware of it and is willing to do something about it.

[tz375]

This isn't the place for politics, but it isn't multi-culturalism that failed. That's just a word that describes something that has been happening since the boat was invented. The UK is an excellent example of the pain and success that comes form different cultures coming together. That's why so many different cultures still exist in the UK today. Check out the French in the south and the Norse in Yorkshire etc for examples. Or go back to the Angles and Saxons who arrived from what is now Germany, or the Wessex etc.

What failed was the typical laisse faire UK politics. What they effectively did (and the UK is not unique with this) was to have an open door policy with no real discussion and zero policy or vision of what might happen.

With globalization and increasing mobility, multi-culturalism is a fact of life. The issue is how will countries integrate those new cultures into the mix in an orderly way. The US for years had a practice of assimilation and Australia was about integration.

Both work but what does not work is allowing groups of a new culture to just do what they want and to hang onto their old culture. The US has a problem with Spanish speakers and that will get worse. What I mean by that is that they need to be encouraged to become a part of the culture of the country they moved to without throwing out their own cultural values.

That is not easy to do and the US, like the UK doesn't want to do anything that might upset the punters (voters). And that takes us back to politics.

[johnakay]

what Cameron was referring as such is the extremist leaders who promote hatred amongst us and wanting to change our way of life.
the previous labour government went to far giving these extremist to much lee way.
for example.. some council's here banned Xmas trees and lights in towns to appease or not to offend other minority. in fact it back fired.
its a shame that these minority has tarred all Muslims with the same brush. I've worked with some of them and it seems they are good folks just wanting to get on with life etc.but some how the last government had created problems on both side.

this what he was also referring to......


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The Prime Minister said the doctrine of multi-culturalism has failed during a speech in which he called for "muscular liberalism" in defence of Western values.

He blamed the radicalisation of Muslim youths and the phenomenon of home-grown terrorism on a "hands-off tolerance" from the authorities.

He said the threat of terrorism must be confronted not only though intelligence and surveillance, but by taking on the ideology of Islamist extremism at home.

Ministers should refuse to share platforms or engage with groups that peddle separatist ideology.

Such groups should also be denied access to public money and barred from spreading their message in universities and prisons, he argued.

Mr Cameron made his comments in a speech to an international security conference in the German city of Munich.

"Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism," the Prime Minister said.

While a "passively tolerant" society allows its citizens to do what they like... a genuinely liberal country "believes in certain values and actively promotes them.

"Freedom of speech. Freedom of worship. Democracy. The rule of law. Equal rights, regardless of race, sex or sexuality.

"It says to its citizens: This is what defines us as a society. To belong here is to believe these things.

"Each of us in our own countries must be unambiguous and hard-nosed about this defence of our liberty."

The timing of Mr Cameron's speech has been criticised as it came on the day of a march in Luton by the far-right English Defence League.

The Prime Minister stressed right-wing extremists and Christian fundamentalist preachers of hate must also be condemned.

He also insisted a clear distinction must be made between the religion of Islam and the political ideology of Islamist extremism.

It is wrong to link strong religious faith with radicalism "as if all devout Muslims must be extremist", Mr Cameron said.

"This is wrong. Someone can be a devout Muslim and not be an extremist. We

need to be clear: Islamist extremism and Islam are not the same thing."

The Prime Minister's comments have been criticised by some Muslim groups, including the Muslim Council of Britain which described them as "disappointing".

Dr Faisal Hanjra, assistant secretary general, said: "Again it seems the Muslim community is being treated as part of the problem rather than part of the solution."