GT750J Front brake rebuild
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GT750J Front brake rebuild
Hi all, been a while since I visited but just bought a new toy and thought I would consult the collective wisdom here.
I managed to pick up a complete GT750 4LS front brake. It needs a full rebuild but the world isn’t perfect.
Unfortunately it needs a full set of brake shoes. Is there anything available aftermarket or am I stuck with NOS Suzuki parts? If they have any left.
Same goes for cables .
Has anyone had original shoes relined ? If so, what type of lining material is suggested , bearing in mind I am located in Australia .
This brake is going to be fitted to my T500, it all ready has a GT750 disc front end on it , but the 4LS just looks sexier.
Andrew Holley
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I managed to pick up a complete GT750 4LS front brake. It needs a full rebuild but the world isn’t perfect.
Unfortunately it needs a full set of brake shoes. Is there anything available aftermarket or am I stuck with NOS Suzuki parts? If they have any left.
Same goes for cables .
Has anyone had original shoes relined ? If so, what type of lining material is suggested , bearing in mind I am located in Australia .
This brake is going to be fitted to my T500, it all ready has a GT750 disc front end on it , but the 4LS just looks sexier.
Andrew Holley
Dubbo
Australia
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
The 1972 4LS is popular. Consider yourself lucky if you found a good useable 4LS at a reasonable price.
I bought one as a spare years ago before the prices went crazy. Looks good & works well on my GT380.
I used Vesrah VB-331 shoes in my 4LS.
Purchased via eBay. Are listed as available on Webike: https://japan.webike.net/products/22834011.html
Got the lever assembly, new cables & torque links via eBay.
I bought one as a spare years ago before the prices went crazy. Looks good & works well on my GT380.
I used Vesrah VB-331 shoes in my 4LS.
Purchased via eBay. Are listed as available on Webike: https://japan.webike.net/products/22834011.html
Got the lever assembly, new cables & torque links via eBay.
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Remember if you have a 4ls off a 750, they are wider than a 550 4ls and won't go in the forks without work. What forks do you have in?
I had Ferodo green linings in my original 550J and it would outbrake any disc equipped bike back then. There must be brake reliners in Oz, talk to them and see what they have.
I had Ferodo green linings in my original 550J and it would outbrake any disc equipped bike back then. There must be brake reliners in Oz, talk to them and see what they have.
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Thanks for the replies guys.
Apparently Vesrah do or at least did shoes for these brakes.
Will see if anyone still has them. If not will talk to brake specialists to see if I can get them relined.
My current forks are L model GT 750. Hopefully I can adapt them to take the drum.
Another question. How to refinish drum, polished painted etc.
I am getting drum and brake plates vapour blasted and trying to figure what to do with them.
Always quite liked the gold finish a lot of the classic era bikes used. Any ideas how to achieve it in a durable manner?
Andrew Holley
Apparently Vesrah do or at least did shoes for these brakes.
Will see if anyone still has them. If not will talk to brake specialists to see if I can get them relined.
My current forks are L model GT 750. Hopefully I can adapt them to take the drum.
Another question. How to refinish drum, polished painted etc.
I am getting drum and brake plates vapour blasted and trying to figure what to do with them.
Always quite liked the gold finish a lot of the classic era bikes used. Any ideas how to achieve it in a durable manner?
Andrew Holley
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Had the GT550 drums vapor blasted & clear coated. Looks quite spiffy.
cafe-GT550_6763 by jabcb, on Flickr
18” rim also adds to the look.
cafe-GT550-0758 by jabcb, on Flickr
Gold drums on a 1920 something-or-other might look good, but I suspect it will just give a GT750J the it-hurts-my-eyes look.
cafe-GT550_6763 by jabcb, on Flickr
18” rim also adds to the look.
cafe-GT550-0758 by jabcb, on Flickr
Gold drums on a 1920 something-or-other might look good, but I suspect it will just give a GT750J the it-hurts-my-eyes look.
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Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
They look nice ''standard' like these on my 550J. (See 'Yeti' thread....)
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Actually the Vapour blast and clear coat look is pretty good.
I’m not big on mirror polishing , and like easy maintenance .
I’m not big on mirror polishing , and like easy maintenance .
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Those Excel rims are also clear coated.
New polished stainless steel spokes + stainless steel nipples add to the low-maintenance spiffy look.
New polished stainless steel spokes + stainless steel nipples add to the low-maintenance spiffy look.
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
I cheated and had stainless spokes and rims!!
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
The aluminum rims are available in wider widths.
Who makes SS rims? Am curious what grade of SS they used because SS can be much harder to work with.
Another spiffy option is shouldered aluminum rims. Also clear coated with SS spokes & nipples.
cafe-T500-1242 by jabcb, on Flickr
Who makes SS rims? Am curious what grade of SS they used because SS can be much harder to work with.
Another spiffy option is shouldered aluminum rims. Also clear coated with SS spokes & nipples.
cafe-T500-1242 by jabcb, on Flickr
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
UK made and fitted by a mate 'locally'. I'll make inquiries.
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
central wheel do 18" and 19" stainless rims for £110
cheers, dd.
central price list:
https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/pub/med ... e-list.pdf
cheers, dd.
central price list:
https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/pub/med ... e-list.pdf
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GT250 big bang road registered. Both pistons fire the same time. USD forks.
GT285 road registered. Overbored - 58mm and TS125 +2 pistons fitted.
GT10 road registered. '65 T10 engine, GT250 frame.
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Interesting….
More info from CWC: https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/product ... -rims.html
The rims might be from Devon Rim Company. https://www.devonrimcompany.com
Their rims are 304 SS: https://www.devonrimcompany.com/valtru- ... nformation
Also interesting, they have WM1 thru WM3 rims. For their premium wheels, they also have deep-dish rims in 3.5” to 5.5” widths.
https://www.devonrimcompany.com/image/c ... 0SPOKE.pdf
My GT550 & T500 rims are: front WM3 (2.15) x 18, rear WM4 (2.50) x 18
More info from CWC: https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/product ... -rims.html
The rims might be from Devon Rim Company. https://www.devonrimcompany.com
Their rims are 304 SS: https://www.devonrimcompany.com/valtru- ... nformation
Also interesting, they have WM1 thru WM3 rims. For their premium wheels, they also have deep-dish rims in 3.5” to 5.5” widths.
https://www.devonrimcompany.com/image/c ... 0SPOKE.pdf
My GT550 & T500 rims are: front WM3 (2.15) x 18, rear WM4 (2.50) x 18
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Normally the front wheels are 19" on Gt550s and T500s, 18" rear.
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Re: GT750J Front brake rebuild
Agreed. Fatter modern tires, longer modern shocks & switch to 18” front wheel changes handling a bit.
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE