NEW CENTRE MAIN BEARINGS

[oldjapanesebikes]

yes it was there answer, today HIC do silent blocks.
If you are better than me to explane in engish that you need those bearings and so on...I give you the differents numbers of this bearing but I think they are not any machines to do them.
The matter with bearings is also the clearance and the iron type...Pedro have find a solution, an expensive solution (for his bank count), but he has play also with the fire, or play pocker, like you want, there is the risk that they are prehaps not good, with the chinese market every thing is possible, I hope for him his bearings goods...I write that because if you made bearing by HIC but making in china the problem will be the same.
See ceramics bearings...americains are good...expensive but good, do you know the quality of the chinese ? .
The problem is the same with the 500 T con rods...i find a french societe witch can do them for 10 pieces...not so expensive...but...they have not good reputation in the past of there job...what do you think I do...I don't like to play pocker and I find another solution, preharps more expensive but a good solution.

M. 'DinoGT' - encore une fois, toutes mes excuses. Votre anglais est bien meilleur que mon français. Mais je ne suis toujours pas clair sur votre réponse, comme tout ce que je cherchais était un «oui» ou un «non» à ma question. Avez-vous parlé à HIC? «Oui» ou «non» SVP ?

Je vous remercie!

[dinogt]

yes it was there answer, today HIC do silent blocks.

yes, we have wright mails since about 3 years ago.
Speak eye in front of eye no, mail yes.
Please, don't tell me Monsieur DinoGT but only Dino, it is my name, with out Mister.
Ton français va bien, sans faute d'ortographe, j'ai tout bien compris.

[oldjapanesebikes]

yes it was there answer, today HIC do silent blocks.

Ok - I suppose what I'm missing is what you mean by 'today HIC silent block'. Ce qu'elle est en francias SVP ?

Please, don't tell me Monsieur DinoGT but only Dino, it is my name, with out Mister.

Ok !

Ton français va bien, sans faute d'ortographe, j'ai tout bien compris.

Thanks ! Both my boys are fluent in a few languages , so I can tap them for help when required, but I can usually manage if I keep it simple

[dinogt]

HIC a un site internet, HIC ne fait plus de roulement mais des silent blocks, ce sont des morceaus de caoutchout entre des plaques de fer pour supprimer les vibrations...ils font de TRES GROS SILENT BLOCKS

[oldjapanesebikes]

HIC a un site internet, HIC ne fait plus de roulement mais des silent blocks, ce sont des morceaus de caoutchout entre des plaques de fer pour supprimer les vibrations...ils font de TRES GROS SILENT BLOCKS

Got it - clear now. Thanks !

There are actually a couple of HIC web sites - one is in Taiwan (here is the link) , and sources bearings from China and other places. Another is in Japan (this is the link), and makes bearings, bearing parts and also machinery to make bearings.

Anyway - that's enough for me for now. If I need bearings for my GT500, I at least know who to talk to !

[johnakay]

bloody foreigners can't understand the buggers

[dinogt]

it's incredible, when I ask to HIC, 2 or 4 years ago, it was not one of both site...it was another....
There is also one thing I haven't say...you can tell me weblooser

[oldjapanesebikes]

it's incredible, when I ask to HIC, 2 or 4 years ago, it was not one of both site...it was another....
There is also one thing I haven't say...you can tell me weblooser

No worries !

HIC in Japan have replied, and have asked for the bearing info, which I've sent. Now we wait !

[oldjapanesebikes]

If I can clear a few things up, yes HIC will remake the bearings if I order 1000 off

That's useful information - thanks ! I'm actually still waiting to hear from them, but if/when I do I'll share the info here.

1) I am not american 2) not one of your little cliche.

I'm actually British - living in Canada, so go easy with that

I came on here with the intention of helping out with honest and straight forward advice with the little time I have to spare as well as let people know of the parts I produce, these parts are to run mine and my customers engines and help others the profit goes back into other parts and racing, its not how I earn my main living.......I have another motorcycle business for that.

Excellent - although like anything offered on this board or anywhere else for that matter, a person would be a fool to blindly accept advice from a person without that person having established some credibility - respect is earned, not assumed.

but with all the price knockers and and general dismisal posts I really cant be bothered to waste my time any further

You've got an attitude issue son - take a deep breath and cool your jets. If you got something useful to add to a discussion then great ! Solid info is always welcomed, attitude isn't.

[dinogt]

Pedro, I think every one is well come in a forum, if every one respect the other.
The remade for difficult pieces to do is very expensive and I think the persons used to buy less expensive on ebay are not ready for the moment to buy at the real price.
If you want do publicuity for your "how you can do" you must have a web site, in the forums there is also person who does never ok with you...because you are too expensive...because they think it's wrong......you must do with them or take the time to explane where THEY are wrong.

Bearings are not chinese, happy to know....1000 U....who can buy all of them ?.

[oldjapanesebikes]

If I can clear a few things up, yes HIC will remake the bearings if I order 1000 off

That's useful information - thanks ! I'm actually still waiting to hear from them, but if/when I do I'll share the info here.

Got a reply back from HIC Japan - they say they can't find their data sheet/drawings for the bearing (DG3080-9), and without that they can't make them, so I guess this is a 'no go'. It looks like the supply options are: fleabay, Pedro or dinogt !

[tz375]

That would be Dino then. Because he takes the time to explain his perspective with no attitude. Pedro on the other hand has some sort of complex. I'm not a member of any clique and I happen to be British too, so he needs to take a deep breath and chill. Why he's so defensive, i have no idea.

[dinogt]

except for the nasty engineering on the yamaha con rods (thats just a broken rod waiting to happen)

I wait for that, when it wil arrived I pay you a bear or a cup of good wine if you prefer.
WHAT I DO IS AT FIRST TESTING BY MYSELF AND I KNOW HOW TO DO CRYING HORSES POWER, IN MAXIMUM LIMITS MOTOR, SINCE HOURS AND HOURS KILOMETERS AND KILOMETERS ON OPENING ROAD AND ON MOTOR CIRCUITS.
My rods are goods and you are wrong, there is no problem machined , there is no traitement special where I put off iron.
Those rods are mading by Yam for a very big single...i just put off a bit of iron for a motor which has half unit cylinder...250 instead of 500.
There is also other thing you haven't do like me...a programmable ignition with the curve you want.
My bearings are with polyamid cage and you don"t know how the are put into so you can't say you do that when you was a baby.
There is no barrier language when you criticate me, I can't accept that of a grand father who give lessons at every body.
Since 2005 you say you have con rods, no one, it is wrong...what else do you say wrong at every body ?...central bearings ? T500 110hp at the rear wheel on a mytho jet ?...

[tz375]

Pedro,
Thanks. Like you, I've been around for a while and I happen to be a mechanical Engineer, but that's not what i do for a living.

Those rods are a little funky to be sure. I'm sure that Dino has tested them and has good experience, but I would not put them in a motor of mine unless there was no other option. the reason I say that is that relatively sharp edges are not desirable on a con rod and there's a change in section just below the small end which is a common point of failure.

That's only my opinion and I certainly have not done FEA or fatigue analysis on one so I may be a little over cautious.

Forums are funny places and in some ways are more like extended family where it's OK for family members to slag off at each other, but woe betide anyone else who even hints at one of them being a doofus.

Forums also tend to have an interesting mix of participants which may not be representative of the general population of of people racing or rebuilding bikes. And of course there's always the NIH syndrome (not invented here) we all have to deal with.

The other problem I run into all the time is if I give a short answer or an emotional response, 9 times out of 10 it comes out all wrong to people reading it. When an issue gets complicated I usually suggest a phone call or meeting - it's amazing how much more effective old style communication is.

[dinogt]

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it was in 2005
I'm not afraid by the ridiculus, persone how speak behind me speak at my ass.
The 110hp was just an imagination.
I am a self made man, I am not a mecanic man but atthe origine, since 25 years a house builder, I am proud of it. In this job i do things that the other are never do...and a day, I said crap that job, I come to the job I would like to do when I was young.
In competition, to go more and more faster and good , we must every day get bask to question and it is not the oldest,the richest, very knowest how has always true...in France , befor valves on Yam 350, a freind of me nas done an exaust pipe at various chamber relaying with the accelerator...there are genious person every where in the world and they have the right to not to call pedro.
I and you are not the world center and both have to learn one by the other.
Let your freind laughbut they risk loose there teeth
Never is all black or all white, a black has a par of his teeth white and a white has black into his eyes.
I will do a topic on this machined con rod, with pics and catia to compare efforts of rupture or torsion...and you will see you are wrong about your idea on my job