T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Fritz 500,I really need to adjust my vocabulary:

Heavy hammer: A large steel headed inertial energy impact device.

Heavy handed: When you don't know how to use a large steel headed inertial energy impact device.
Two strokes, its just that simple.

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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Suzsmokeyallan wrote: Heavy hammer: A large steel headed inertial energy impact device.

Heavy handed: When you don't know how to use a large steel headed inertial energy impact device.

I'm glad I have helped you to improve your use of the English language... :P

I still have the large steel headed inertial energy impact device that my grandfather used when he was young. It is all original except for the new handle (its fourth) and a new head (its third).
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Suzsmokeyallan wrote: Heavy hammer: A large steel headed inertial energy impact device.

Heavy handed: When you don't know how to use a large steel headed inertial energy impact device.

I'm glad I have helped you to improve your use of the English language... :P

I still have the large steel headed inertial energy impact device that my grandfather used when he was young. It is all original except for the new handle (its fourth) and a new head (its third).
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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When I'm adjusting steel parts on frames that need a little persuasion, I tend to refer to the process as 'talking' the part back into shape or its correct location.
This way when its not responding as it should you can up the ante and hurl some shouts and expletives at it for better results.
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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i have an extra 1976 suzuki gt500 frame in good shape. can you use it? ron
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Ron wrote:i have an extra 1976 suzuki gt500 frame in good shape. can you use it? ron

Thanks, but I wanted to keep the engine/frame numbers matching.

I have only just found someone who'll straighten it for a really good price.

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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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I decided I wasn't going to straighten the rear frame arms myself.

I had a debate with the tattooed motorcycle expert at the local motorcycle wreckers. He said I can't straighten the two rear arms unless the frame has the motor and wheels fitted. Thank you I said.

Went to a motorcycle repair shop and he said "No fukkin worries mate, do it all the toime, cost yews about $100 and she'll be as good as freakin' new". (Translation for those who don't speak Oz "Certainly sir, I have experience in these matters and for a nominal fee of $100 I will be able to rectify the issue you have with the frame"

So by next week, frame fixed.
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Tattoo guy +1, do it all the time guy Zero. It needs the wheels in place to measure alignment and the motor in place to stop the frame from distorting when force is applied. Forks are often removed in the jig to grab it at the steering head though.

The other approach is with a "gas axe" and long bending bars. "Knockometers" not required. It will look straight enough but frame may not be as straight as you would like - though anything is possible.
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Re: T500 frame - not quite symmetrical

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Dropped the frame off at the motorcycle repair shop to get the rear mudguard tubes straightened. I left all the string lines on (actually glued them in place) and discussed with the "expert" that the tube ends need to 155mm apart after he has done the straightening.

About 4 weeks later I rang to see how it was going. Surprisingly he said "I'm just getting onto it now".

About an hour late he rings me and says "The tubes are already 155mm apart so what needs doing? I said look at the string lines and you can see the problem. He says: "Oh, I removed them as they were in the way". In the way of what? He hadn't even started!!!

It's no wonder I try to fix things myself. If only I had a decent workshop.

Some of these guys look you in the eye and say they have been doing it for forty years. I say some of them have been doing it for one year forty times over.

It got straightened eventually so now to get the frame and other bits powder coated or painted. Still not sure which is best.
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