Anyone have a battery eliminator installed on your bike ?

[pearljam724]

If so. Let's see some feedback and what item you may have purchased. Perhaps, considering one.

[jabcb]

You can't use a battery eliminator on any of the triples unless you switch to a permanent magnet alternator.

[pearljam724]

You can't use a battery eliminator on any of the triples unless you switch to a permanent magnet alternator.

Then why advertise this ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bat-Pac-BATTERY ... 05&vxp=mtr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ConnerVT]

Triples? Don't see them...

TESTED ON THE FOLLOWING
If your unsure if the Bat-Pac will work for your application please contact me

Yamaha - RD400E,F, and G from the UK. ; RD400F, and G from Canada ; RD350LC 1980-82 ;

RZ350 ; RZ500 ; TZR250 ; XT250 ; XT500 ; XT600 ; TT600 ; TT600r ; SRX600 ; SR500 ; YSR50 ; DT Enduro's ; DT175 ; DT400 ; FZ ; FZR

Suzuki - RG250 ; RG500 ; RGV250 ; GS ; GT185 ; GT250 ; GT500 ; TC90 ; TC120 ; TS250 R,J, & K ;

TS350 ; TM400 ; T125 ; T250 ; T350 ; T500

Honda - MB5 ; Passport C50 C70 C90 ; XR ; (some CB350, CB500) ; CBR600 F1, F2, F3's ;

CL ; CS ; CM - CM125 CM200 CM250 Z50 ;

Kawasaki = KZ ; GPZ ; ZX ; KLR 250

Polaris - 400 Sport ; Scrambler 400 4X4

Vincent - Black Shadow

BSA - ALL Magneto equipped models

Norton - ALL Magneto equipped models

Triumph - ALL Magneto equipped models

Harley Davidson - ALL Magneto equipped models

XR

[pjmcburney]

You can't use them on the triples because the excitement magnetism within the alternator is created by current from a battery.


Unlike any of the bikes listed, as stated, that use permanent magnets to 'supply' the magnetism.

The triples all use a DC current-driven 'magnet' (the rotor winding) to excite the secondary winding on the stator to create an AC current.
If you remove the battery, you can't charge the rotor winding and henceforth you won't create any magnetism and create any output from the alternator.
And you lose the ability to start the bike with the starter motor (duh).

There just isn't enough power in the system (you know, laws of thermodynamics and conservation of energy and all that) to get everything up and running.
That's why a completely discharged battery in a triple means you're walking.

AMHIK.

Conversely, all you have to do with a permanent magnet arrangement to get an output current (a magneto) is spin the bastard.
All the bikes listed have/are kickstart - problem solved.

[Alan H]

Compatibility issues:

In general, if it has a permanent magnet flywheel, chances are the Bat-Pac will work.
Older bikes that have a point type magneto can also use the Bat-Pac.

The Bat-Pac works on all that have a magneto CDI/ stator alternator systems. If it uses a
brush type generator/alternator to power the ignition then the Bat-Pac won't work.
The reason for this is because the permanent magnets can induct enough current
in the stator coils to start the engine, whereas brush type charging systems require
a current source with several amps of current capacity to magnetize the windings of the rotor,
and the primary windings of the ignition coils.
The Bat-Pac is compatible with 6 and 12 volt systems, positive or negative ground.
The Bat-Pac can be used along with a battery for improved voltage output of the charging system .
Testing a Bat-Pac on a non-compatible charging system will not damage anything