XR11/73

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tz375 wrote:That is one incredibly thick outer cover. Is that for slide protection? I just had one cut from 3/16" plate. :shock:
thought I had better try to protect the crank, as the ignition will be on that side too. Alternative was a thinner cover with a shaped block of aluminium welded on for crash protection.
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de-spragging the starter motor clutch.

having resisted all my attempts to dislodge it from the crank, I finally paid heed to advice given on the rather strangely titled Pink Possum website (don't ask what I was browsing for............ ;)) and purchased a heavy-duty steering wheel puller set.

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ready to go...........

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I was quite shocked with the ferocity with which it finally let go, exploding rollers and bits all over the floor, but yield it did.

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leaving behind the starter ring gear and bearings.

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the sprag cluth is held together by 3 crossheaded through bolts, the ends of which Suzuki, rather un-sportingly, peened over to prevent removal. In the picture, they have what looks like flat-blade screwdriver slots in them.

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my method of removal - not approved by Suzuki

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having drilled the heads off all 3 screws, the unit could be seperated into its component parts.

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and the remains of the screws? They can be removed by screwing them out of the water pump drive gear using some vice-grips.

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Quite a bit of the clutch unit will be scrapped - I only need the water pump drive gear - so some creative machining should see a much lighter unit re-fitted some time in the future. I'll do another feature on it sometime soon.
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garry55 wrote:and purchased a heavy-duty steering wheel puller set.
Yep - thanks how its done ! :D Just looking back through the thread and I'm wondering whether you know for sure the engine runs ? Crankshaft seals on these - especially these earlier engines - are a problem eh ? 8)
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Don't scrap the clutch parts. The plungers, springs and rollers fit the GT550 (early starter clucth) and GT750 (early starter clutch) and they are sometimes hard to get. I bought a set of 3 last year for £30 so someone may be interested.
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oldjapanesebikes wrote: Just looking back through the thread and I'm wondering whether you know for sure the engine runs ? Crankshaft seals on these - especially these earlier engines - are a problem eh ? 8)
I'm sure the crank will need a rebuild, but thats easily sorted. Maybe a fresh bore and pistons too. I will replace all the oil seals and internal bearings as a matter of course. Thought it best to wreak havoc on the motor before rebuilding it! :lol:
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Alan H wrote:Don't scrap the clutch parts. The plungers, springs and rollers fit the GT550 (early starter clucth) and GT750 (early starter clutch) and they are sometimes hard to get. I bought a set of 3 last year for £30 so someone may be interested.
Yours if you want them Al :up:
although one of the rollers hasn't been found yet......
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Is this what you were thinking?

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Thanx Richard , I was trying to find the saved picture of your reworked ( lightened ) starter clutch setup :up:
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this is a seriously awesome thread. i am doing a tr build in the near future so this is an excellent source of pics and ideas. thanx for the excellent documentation.
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Dave, That's the only picture I could find. Too many pictures on this PC to ever find what I'm looking for.

Of course the drive gear is only needed for bikes with mechanical tacho and/or waterpump. Change those to electric and the gear and propeller and pump quill shaft can all go to the recyclers. :wink:

We registered the PinkPossum name and created a whole family of Possum characters to use with it for an internet company I was involved in and since I registered and paid for it I just kept it and use it for bike related stuff. BTW in Australia, possums are cute furry creatures - not at all like the bald pink opossums in North America and I'm try to avoid double entendres but it's hard..to do :oops: Here's a baby possum for you..

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tz375 wrote:Is this what you were thinking?

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yes - very much along those lines. My approach differs in that I am drilling 3 new M6 holes in the water pump drive gear just outside of the crank taper casting and drilling and tapping likewise into the clutch drum, then parting-off the excess drum material. Where yours has the 3 arms to utilise the original M8 bolts, mine will have a very small diameter mounting flange. Then I will part-off the starter ring gear from it's boss and re-use the boss as a spacer for the water pump drive gear. It will be much clearer when I post some pictures up. I hope!
Same idea - different approach :up:
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a bit more progress...........

the remains of the starter motor ring gear and the sprag clutch hub, with the newly-machined parts that they donated

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the centre of the ring gear provides the spacer

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for the accurate alignment of the water pump drive gear

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That works well .. now on to the next hurtle :up:
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Suzukidave wrote:That works well .. now on to the next hurtle :up:
which is (still) trying to stop the front tyre from hitting the centre header pipe.......... :cry:
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