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How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:49 pm
by pearljam724
How much will accomplish the job without buying too much and not sweating buying any more ? 1/2 pint, full pint or a quart ? The color I have chosen is a Candy Max Orange that is used on Suzuki's 07 GSXR-1000 and 09 GSXR-600. As the link states. The main color requires a base to complete the color mix. I suppose. Do I also need the same amount of base as I do the main color ? I won't be the one painting. I just need to buy the correct amount for my painter. Which I have not chosen yet. http://www.colorrite.com/matrix-colors. ... N=32381777" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:46 pm
by Suzsmokeyallan
Depends on what parts you are painting and how many coats you like. Spraying a tank, side covers, headlight ears, headlight bucket, radiator side covers, front fender etc will increase the amount used if you do all of these parts.
Candy paint is basically a two colour paint application, some are even three colour finishes. For the basic two colour effect, a metallic silver is often used as a base reflective layer and then the candy, which looks like a translucent pearled tint goes on top of it to enhance the silver.
After that step is completed it needs a top clear to seal it from the elements and to give it shine and durability.
You forgot to mention the primer, and the two part clear coat which you will also need to buy as well.
Normally, for a ratio you will need around 60 to 80% of the candy tint in quantity compared to the total of the base colour, taking for granted you are applying a minimal of two coats of candy tint.

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:54 pm
by pearljam724
Suzsmokeyallan wrote:Depends on what parts you are painting and how many coats you like. Spraying a tank, side covers, headlight ears, headlight bucket, radiator side covers, front fender etc will increase the amount used if you do all of these parts.
Candy paint is basically a two colour paint application, some are even three colour finishes. For the basic two colour effect, a metallic silver is often used as a base reflective layer and then the candy, which looks like a translucent pearled tint goes on top of it to enhance the silver.
After that step is completed it needs a top clear to seal it from the elements and to give it shine and durability.
You forgot to mention the primer, and the two part clear coat which you will also need to buy as well.
Normally, for a ratio you will need around 60 to 80% of the candy tint in quantity compared to the total of the base colour, taking for granted you are applying a minimal of two coats of candy tint.
The clear and the primer, I'm not worried about. Most professional paint shops have that readily available. I'm only doing the tank and two side covers. I think 3 coats of each. But, I'm not a painter. Under that circumstance. What do you think would be the minimal amount of main paint and base ?

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:35 pm
by Suzsmokeyallan
A pint tin is usually regarded as the minimal amount in a paint shop for mixing ratios, so expect to use almost all of the silver and most of the candy with these amounts. The next volume up from these would be a pint and a half should you decide to increase the amounts and have some left over.

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:06 pm
by pearljam724
Suzsmokeyallan wrote:A pint tin is usually regarded as the minimal amount in a paint shop for mixing ratios, so expect to use almost all of the silver and most of the candy with these amounts. The next volume up from these would be a pint and a half should you decide to increase the amounts and have some left over.
Thank you, sir.

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 11:50 am
by Madbuffalo
Justin, A bit late I know but here's my 2 cents:

I would recommend having your painter buy the materials for a few reasons. Painters usually find a brand they like and stick with it, every brand's a little different. If you supply them with the paint they might pad their price a little since they're not used to what your giving them. It's also best to use materials from the same manufacturer all the way from sealer to clear and some manufacturers will void the warranty if for example you use their paint over someone else's primer. Everybody's bonding agents and chemical makeup are a little different. You mentioned you weren't worried about the clear because it's likely something the painter will have in stock. They will probably want to match your base with their brand of clear. Also price - most paint shops get a discount on materials, especially large ones like Maaco, so they might be able to get it cheaper than you. It's not just buying paint and spraying it either. Almost all paint has additives like a catylist/hardener that need to be mixed with the paint and the shop will have a better idea of what's best for that particular paint. So you might consider just giving them the paint code or manufacturer/color that you're going for and let them match it with their preferred brand.

To answer your question, a pint is probably enough. As a point of reference, painting a car might take anywhere from 2 quarts to a gallon. Having some extra just in case isn't bad either though. If you happen to get a dent or scratch at some point in the future it's nice to have that extra on hand.

Josh

Re: How much paint do I need for tank and side covers ?

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:15 pm
by pearljam724
Thanks, guys. Yeah, I understand the paint code part. A few reasons why I am electing to buy the paint myself. Number one being. I don't want to be disappointed in a cheaper paint not mimicking the color change of the oem color I chose. Depending on how bright it is outside. The color is red during an over cast or bright orange metallic if it is sunny. Color rite paints have a great reputation in the bike community for matching manufacturer oem colors. Second reason, a painter is more likely to pad pricing buy buying his own brand. ( Buy cheaper, charge the same as a superior paint ). I see your point in matching brands for all coats. Which never crossed my mind. I have a guy I grew up with that has painted cars for as long as I can remember. He does great work and I trust him. I'll just give him the code and let him decide what he thinks is best. The first painter I spoke to has a great reputation for painting classic cars for people all over the country. Wanted 6 to 7 hundred for the tank and 2 side covers. And that doesn't include me buying the decals and badges that I need. Yikes, lol !