Dang rear wheel removal

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Dang rear wheel removal

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So the GT750 is new to me, still exploring it. Decided I would raise the gearing a bit, has 15/40 on it and I got 5 countershafts with the bike but they are all 15 and 16 :( So I decided to replace the 40 rear with the 43 I have and have discovered you have to remove the entire exhaust system to remove the rear wheel :wth: :wth: I guess there is no magic that will change this but really?? Every tire change the whole exhaust system has to come off? Yikes
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Re: Dang rear wheel removal

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The axle will slide out of the swingarm without removing the exhaust if everthing is stock! Why do you have to drop the exhaust on yours?
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76 A model, all stock, no way to slide an axle out, mufflers sitting there. Even the Haines manual has a little note saying the exhaust mus be removed. How does your ??
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AFAIK, there is no way to pull the axle out with a stock exhaust in place. The exhausts have indents to clear the nut and end of the shaft, but i'm sure at least one side has to come off to get the axle out.
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tz375 wrote:AFAIK, there is no way to pull the axle out with a stock exhaust in place. The exhausts have indents to clear the nut and end of the shaft, but i'm sure at least one side has to come off to get the axle out.
I think just get rid of the right side so I suppose 2 cylinders worth :( I may just wait for when I need to do the tire. No hurry.
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Is there any reason that you could not just remove the shocks and raise the wheel enough to pull the axle out above the top pipe or drop it and get it from below the bottom pipe? I have not tried that, but it looks possible.
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TZ, I had to do that very thing with my 550 when I replaced the rear tire last year. What a giant pita......but since it was the first new tire in almost 35 years I guess I can't complain too loudly. :wink:
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H2RICK wrote:TZ, I had to do that very thing with my 550 when I replaced the rear tire last year. What a giant pita......but since it was the first new tire in almost 35 years I guess I can't complain too loudly. :wink:
Doh, the 550 is the saem way? My rear tire is going flat within hours. So I have to drop the whole exhaust to get the rear tire off?
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Re: Dang rear wheel removal

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Maybe - or with a bit of luck you can just pull the bolts for the chain adjuster blocks and pull the whole wheel straight back. You will likely still need to undo the shock bolts so you can get more swing arm travel.
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With the bike on the center stand on a 4"x4" block, break the chain, loosen the axle nut and chain adjusters. Remove the two bolts holding the blocks in the back of the swingarm and remove them. Disconnect the brake cable and torque rod. The whole rear wheel assembly will now slide out. Works on both my GT550 and GT750.
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This works as well,,,with the bike on the centre stand, slacken the bottom shock nuts and remove them then turn the shocks so they face backwards, slacken the axle nut and remove it then place an object of suitable size under the tyre as you lift the wheel up to the top inside of the fender. You can now turn the axle adjusters off the draw blocks and slide the wheel forwards to get the chain off the sprocket, it helps to remove the chainguard at this time as well if you have an endless chain.
Then remove the axle as its above the pipes and the brake plate and cush drive with the spacers at this time as well. Take out the lift object and let the wheel touch the ground, then turn the wheel on a side within the swingarms forks so to clear the back portion of the rear fender,, its now out and you did not remove the exhaust.
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Cliff wrote:With the bike on the center stand on a 4"x4" block, break the chain, loosen the axle nut and chain adjusters. Remove the two bolts holding the blocks in the back of the swingarm and remove them. Disconnect the brake cable and torque rod. The whole rear wheel assembly will now slide out. Works on both my GT550 and GT750.

Yep, I think I just figured this out. I was used to the swingarm being closed at the end and the axle having to slide out but no so on the GT. My apology to suzuki engineers.
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Not an issue when you have chambers 8) Actually both chambers on the right were straight, but because I went with a wider GS swing arm. I had to cut and tweak the lower one. This took several tries to get it right and finally welded it up. Even at that, I had to grind a huge bevel on the axle head. It all clears now with nearly a sixteenth to spare :up:

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Use a ratchet strap on one of the rear shocks to raise the swing arm until the axel is between the upper and lower pipes and the axel will clear the pipes and you can slide the wheel out backwards without doing anything with the stock pipes, removing the shocks or, doing anything with the chain guard. All this is done on the centerstand on the ground.
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Would someone follow my update on cutting the axle and using a different nut so the wheel comes out with ease and no exhausts were harmed.
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