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progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:53 am
by two-stroke-brit
some time ago i got some new fork springs for my 73 buffalo .but have run into problems in instalation.

i ordereed the right thing

but a good two inches too long.

a good 1 5/8 protruding.

and 1/2 inch to the threads.
i am thinking maybee it has 72 lowers but it has the rotor/disc fittings so thats not it.
also the front wheel is off the ground strung up by the frame so its fully extended.
before i cut them down .
any sugestions or things to check would be helpful.
thanks mark
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:23 pm
by jabcb
Have a 1975 GT750 so I'm interested in this issue & looked into it.
Found this @ HVC cycle:
http://www.hvccycle.com/suspension-progressive.html
They state that the springs must be cut for early model forks & they offer that service.
The 1972 & 1973 GT750 used the same fork spring, part # 51171-31033.
So it looks like your springs will require cutting, but perhaps someone else can provide more insight.
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:57 pm
by tz375
Damper arrangement changed in 74 to a damper rod system, the springs changed too. 74 on forks are very different. If you measure teh length of your 73 springs I can compare them to a set of 74's I have here for you.
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:55 pm
by two-stroke-brit
tz375 wrote:Damper arrangement changed in 74 to a damper rod system, the springs changed too. 74 on forks are very different. If you measure teh length of your 73 springs I can compare them to a set of 74's I have here for you.
the original springs are 17 3/4 long.
thanks tezzer
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:12 pm
by tz375
Are you ready?
They are about 21 3/8" long. They came from 2 sets of forks and are all within 1/8" or so of the same length.
That's a little different to the shorties.
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:56 pm
by Suzsmokeyallan
I'd be careful about cutting those progressive springs, you could end up making the springs rate too hard if you cut the total amount off from the open wound coil side.
I'd remove the total amount shared between the two sides of the spring.
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:30 pm
by two-stroke-brit
Thanks everyone i will trim to suit when i get back to work,
i was going to just cut the open end but i guess i will do what alan says and do both ends equal amounts.(thanks allan)
i just hope i dont end up like the three stogees in the "leveling out the wobbly chair" scene.
cheers mark
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:04 am
by tz375
What do the springs sit on in the sliders - is there a post that fits in there?
I'd take a look at that and see it it's not possible to modify that instead. That assumes that the bottom of the fork leg has a large enough bore to allow the springs to pass straight through.
My guess is that there is a rod in the bottom that looks like a small diameter damper rod but has no damping chores. It would be bolted in the same way a damper rod bolts in and is probably a simple steel tube with a top hat welded or brazed to the top to create a spring seat.
If that's the case, it should be easy to get them out and shorten them
Of fit a pair of 74-75 forks
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:17 pm
by two-stroke-brit
Thanks but i think it will be easier to shorten the springs.
we have a cutoff disc grinder at work i will set a stop and top and tail them.
thanks again mark
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:00 pm
by tz375
"top and tail". Haven't heard that since I left home over 3 decades ago. Your cultural heritage is showing.
Is that expression used in the US?
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:04 pm
by two-stroke-brit
tz375 wrote:"top and tail". Haven't heard that since I left home over 3 decades ago. Your cultural heritage is showing.
Is that expression used in the US?
NO pure souwf lundun.
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:45 pm
by tz375
Darn sarf?
Re: progressive fork springs
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:04 am
by two-stroke-brit
tz375 wrote:Darn sarf?
my dad was a proper cockney (bow bells and all that)
when i first came to the states i played golf with an expat from the midlands,
And he was always picking me up for saying "par free" and "firty free".
i sometimes get out an old copy of "the sweeny" just to hear someone say.
"go back to his manor and spin his drum"
ahh the good old days.
cheers mark