[T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

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[T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

Post by Frank »

Hi Everyone:

I'm setting up to build another T500 as a winter project and am wondering if the cases I want to use are rubber bushed. Serial number is in the 63xxx series i.e. 1973 era and the cush ID is 12 mm. This is not a great picture but the inner sleeve appears to be encased in rubber or rubber-like material.

I built one of these bikes before and it vibrated so badly at high revs I swore I'd never race one again (my hands would literally want to vibrate off the bars) but these are giving me hope! Pic below - thanks for your comments and advice! (edited to resize pic)

ImageT500 Casing Bush1 by Frank, on Flickr
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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

Post by jabcb »

All versions of the T500 used the same bushings.
This eBay listing has pics of the bushing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Suzuki-Bus ... 3014789231

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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

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Thanks for the info - I've read about conversions using the GT750 rubber bushings and was hoping the later cases made a change. I didn't realize the OEM setup used some rubber in the engine mount area, I guess they're not that effective, lol.

I should update the Profile description, haven't noticed that for awhile! My '76 GT550 broke a con rod one day years ago, so I turned it into an e-commuter. 6-7 years ago I decided to drag race it so reworked it again for that purpose. This is what it looks like now. I've run 5.7/127 mph in the 1/8th mile (at 70% power). It needs a fairing and a wheelie bar to do much more.

ImageDrag Bike 2016-1 by Frank, on Flickr
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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

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Some years ago I also read about the T500 rubber bushing mod. Might be possible to find more info via Google.

Not much GT550 left in that drag bike. Any pics of the e-commuter?
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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

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BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more

Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

Post by Frank »

Sorry, I can't find any pics when the bike was used as a commuter. It looked pretty stock except I had some batteries in rear saddlebags.
The first iteration as a drag bike used a smaller motor but stock seat, wheelbase, with struts replacing the rear shocks so it also looked close to stock. That only works for so long though when you start going faster.

I did see that link and the reference to 14 mm engine mount bolts is what made me wonder if Suzuki had upgraded later cases as they use 12 mm.
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Re: [T500] Is this engine Rubber Mounted?

Post by Zunspec4 »

Hi Frank,

The use of GT750 12mm engine bolts and bushes is "almost" a Red Herring. I believe it has been done but the benefits are marginal for the work involved. You should still be able to get T500 bushes direct from Suzuki (BUSHING P/N 09319-12006 Qty 6 required).

Be advised that there is an important spacer fitted between each pair of bushes. The bushes front and rear are reasonably easy to get out and replace. The pair under the engine are a PITA :lol:

Good luck

Geoff
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