General discussion about Street two-stroke Suzuki motorcycles.
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jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:40 pm
Looks like Jemco is no longer making pipes. Making a list because I need something for my GT550 cafe build.
OldJapaneseBikes.com has a list of GT750 exhaust systems:
https://www.oldjapanesebikes.com/GT750_ ... -A55#pipes
Some additional info is here:
viewtopic.php?t=9552&hilit=gt+750+chambers&start=15
Delkevic: GT750 replica & 3-into-3
https://delkevic.com/motorcycles/suzuki ... els/gt750/
Jollymoto: GT380 3-into-3, GT750 3-into-1
https://www.jl-exhausts.com/jollymoto-s ... -915-c.asp
JL Exhausts: T500 2-into-2, GT550 3-into-3, GT750 3-into-3
https://www.jl-exhausts.com/jl-suzuki-e ... -405-c.asp
Gibson: GT550 3-into-4, GT750 3-into-3
http://www.stinkwheels.co.uk/index.php/ ... ed-pricing
Higgspeed: 3-into-3 & 2-into-2
https://higgspeed.com
Zenshin in Japan: 3-into-3 & 3-into1
All the info I found was in Japanese.
Zenshin about page:
http://zenshinpipe.air-nifty.com/about.html
http://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref=SER ... -nifty.com
contact info:
311-4163
747-4 Kakurai, Mito City, Ibaraki Prefecture
Zenshin Engineering
tel 029-309-6224
fax 029-309-6225
Mail
uhk56439@nifty.ne.jp
The specifications can be changed according to the budget, so please contact us directly for details. Zenshin, in charge, Toshima, 029-295-3121, fax, 029-295-7192, email
uhk56439@nifty.ne.jp
I think you can get their pipes here:
https://www.motoparts-online.com/apps/w ... ow/2951142
Product list???:
https://www.translatetheweb.com/?from=j ... nshinpipe#
Some of their pipes:
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:03 pm
Zenshin also has cross-pipe 3-into-3 that gets rid of side stand issues. Video of Kawasaki with the cross pipe:
https://youtu.be/HuzqGpGdtRQ
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:53 am
GT750 with Zenshin cross-pipe 3-into-3
https://youtu.be/nh7mxy6Mwww
GT550 with Zenshin 3-into-1 “Imo Long”
https://youtu.be/p2LWQ3AIOH0
GT550 with Gibson 3-into-4
https://youtu.be/ftT1YvZynkM
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:32 am
Anyone have insight in the cornering clearance for the available 3-into-3 & 3-into-1 chambers for a GT550?
Not concerned about the center stand — I removed the frame tabs for the center stand.
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:07 pm
Zehshin Facebook page (in Japanese):
https://www.facebook.com/pg/207005156440324/posts/
GT550 3-into-1 video on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/20700515644032 ... 40953/?t=0
Based on some of the pics, I’m wondering about the ground clearance from some of the Zenshin pipes.
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:09 pm
video of GT550 with Higgspeed / GT750s with Gibson & JL — the bikes have center stands
https://youtu.be/GFcv_8qQFUE
I found this topic by forum member 2strokelove, where he had side stand clearance issues with Higgspeed on a 1972 GT550.
He last visited the forum in 2016. Didn’t find any indication about his resolution to the cornering clearance issue.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11017&p=149583&hili ... ed#p149583
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:15 pm
Looks like someone else has a GT550 side stand solution similar to my GT380 solution.
Pic of the stock GT550 side stand:
cafe-GT550-1208 by
jabcb , on Flickr
Pic of my GT380 stand prior to welding on the tab: 1/2” thick spacer + T500 stand bracket + TS250 stand:
GT380_0541 by
jabcb , on Flickr
Pic of completed GT380 stand:
GT380_0611 by
jabcb , on Flickr
Pic of Taimoshan Cycle Works GT550 Brat Racer with Jemco 3-into-3 + a TBD stand:
More info:
https://www.taimoshancycleworks.com/bui ... ld-photos/
https://www.taimoshancycleworks.com/cur ... rat-racer/
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
daxman
To the on ramp
Posts: 349 Joined: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:59 pm
Country: United Kingdom
Suzuki 2-Strokes: A100 GT250 & 4t Yams!
Location: Brussel County, England
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by daxman » Thu Aug 06, 2020 5:26 pm
NIce pipes - all of them!
grumpy56
To the on ramp
Posts: 218 Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:08 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 1970 T350 Restored; 1972 GT380 Build
Location: Yorba Linda, CA
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by grumpy56 » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:49 am
Good info. Thanks much!
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:50 pm
I contacted Motoparts Online about Zehsin.
They can sell any of the Zenshin pipes. For a list of pipes, they provided the Yahoo link:
https://auctions.yahoo.co.jp/seller/zenshinpipe
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:02 pm
Webike in Japan also sells Japanese expansion chambers for Suzuki bikes. Bands & products varies from time to time.
Currently they list MAD★STAR GT380 3-into-1:
https://japan.webike.net/ps/#!p.m=607&p.c=1002&p.sk=1
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Jakefromstatefarm
Still in the Driveway
Posts: 2 Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:02 pm
Country: United States
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 1975 Suzuki GT550
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by Jakefromstatefarm » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:58 am
Dude you are seriously doing Gods work right now. I’m in the process of tearing down my 75 GT550 that’s been sitting for years. Rebuilding the entire motor and the stock exhaust is completely rotted out. It ran before but it stopped running on the left cylinder after I believe to be a crank seal failed. Figured I might as well throw some expansion chambers on.
jabcb
Moto GP
Posts: 4310 Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:32 pm
Country: USA
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 69 T350 thru 75 GT750
Location: southwestern Pennsylvania
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by jabcb » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:33 am
Jakefromstatefarm wrote: Also found these systems for the 550s from Italy while looking around on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293690729045 " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Those are Jim Lomas expansion chambers that I listed in the first post as JL Exhausts.
BAS (Bike Acquisition Syndrome) - too many bikes but have room for more
Suzuki:
GT750 2x75
GT550 72 & 75
GT380 72
T500 69 project & 73 project
T350 69 & 71
Honda 85 CB650SC & 86 CB700SC
09 Triumph Bonneville SE
Alan H
Moto GP
Posts: 3249 Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:50 am
Country: England
Suzuki 2-Strokes: 4 x GT550s - J, M, A, B.
Location: The Republic of South Yorkshire
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by Alan H » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:48 pm
Or Abbey spannies like these on my A model in the Isle of Man a couple of years ago.
Isle of Man.jpg
Just fitted 13" Hagon shocks for better ground clearance - now I have to extend the sidestand!!
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