1972 T250 cold start troubles
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:19 pm
Hello all, my 250 project is nearly complete and I've had it running several times along with a couple of short (2.5 mile) rides last weekend. Its still very much winter here but I was able to sneak it out when my road was dry; temp was about 35f (+2C). The bike runs very well, strong acceleration, nice even idle @ 1500rpm or so. I've got the fuel mixed, (1st tank) but the injection system is working fine, no bubbles in the lines and the tank level is dropping since first filling.
My only problem is cold starting. Enricher on, it takes ten kicks before she fires and runs. When she starts, she stays running and within a short time I can flick the enricher off and the bike will idle.
I've pulled the plugs after 4-5 kicks to check for flooding, but they are always dry at this point.
I've opened the float bowl drains before kicking and they are full.
I've been through the carbs several times now. I've paid very close attention to the enricher circuit. This bike runs only one enricher on the left carb, and then a hose that connects from there to the right carb venturi. I've never played with a twin carb enricher system like this; my GT500 had an enricher on each carb, linked, with a common lever.
I have the correct float bowl on the corresponding carb, (only one of them is crossed drilled to allow gas to enter the enricher chamber). I've confirmed that the pick up tube is clear and the plunger is lifting and opening the circuit. I've changed the short hose between carbs. I'm running an aftermarket manual petcock and have the vacuum nipple on the left carb, capped off.
I've gone to #40 pilot jets, (stock is 30's, my bike had 20's installed).
I can't see any signs of lean running --- I installed new outer crank seals. There is no rise in idle as she warms up. I haven't been able to do much of a spark plug read with limited running but so far they are somewhere around off-white, not quite tan. (hopefully in the next couple of weeks our weather will be good enough for me to run it further and get a better reading)
I've checked for an air leak using quick start, sprayed at the base gaskets, carb flange area etc with no affect.
Once running, if I apply the enricher the rpm rises slightly.
The odometer shows just over 10,000 miles but I have no history on the bike.
Sorry for the long post but I figure the more info I provide, perhaps someone might have an idea for me to try. Or maybe someone with the same bike can will tell me that these particular twin carb/single enricher set ups were hard cold starters? (in which case I'll live with it --- easy to kick over and it should only get better as the temps warm up)
thanks everyone!
Relic
My only problem is cold starting. Enricher on, it takes ten kicks before she fires and runs. When she starts, she stays running and within a short time I can flick the enricher off and the bike will idle.
I've pulled the plugs after 4-5 kicks to check for flooding, but they are always dry at this point.
I've opened the float bowl drains before kicking and they are full.
I've been through the carbs several times now. I've paid very close attention to the enricher circuit. This bike runs only one enricher on the left carb, and then a hose that connects from there to the right carb venturi. I've never played with a twin carb enricher system like this; my GT500 had an enricher on each carb, linked, with a common lever.
I have the correct float bowl on the corresponding carb, (only one of them is crossed drilled to allow gas to enter the enricher chamber). I've confirmed that the pick up tube is clear and the plunger is lifting and opening the circuit. I've changed the short hose between carbs. I'm running an aftermarket manual petcock and have the vacuum nipple on the left carb, capped off.
I've gone to #40 pilot jets, (stock is 30's, my bike had 20's installed).
I can't see any signs of lean running --- I installed new outer crank seals. There is no rise in idle as she warms up. I haven't been able to do much of a spark plug read with limited running but so far they are somewhere around off-white, not quite tan. (hopefully in the next couple of weeks our weather will be good enough for me to run it further and get a better reading)
I've checked for an air leak using quick start, sprayed at the base gaskets, carb flange area etc with no affect.
Once running, if I apply the enricher the rpm rises slightly.
The odometer shows just over 10,000 miles but I have no history on the bike.
Sorry for the long post but I figure the more info I provide, perhaps someone might have an idea for me to try. Or maybe someone with the same bike can will tell me that these particular twin carb/single enricher set ups were hard cold starters? (in which case I'll live with it --- easy to kick over and it should only get better as the temps warm up)
thanks everyone!
Relic