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Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:05 pm
by Coyote
My bike has a major lean problem and I'm not sure how to correct it.. I did note this before tearing the bike down and did a lot of bending and tweaking before powder coating. I gained a little, but not near enough.
The lean in these photos is barely acceptable as it is, but it's on a 2x4 riser block (1 1/2 thick) so I need to come up about 2".
I have racked my brain and can't come up with a decent remedy. Simply extending the stand would make it way too long and the stand bumper would not hit the exhaust in the correct spot.
I am open for any and all suggestions for possible fixes.

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Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:39 pm
by yeadon_m
If you have the correct wheels, forks and shocks, then it can only lean over too far if the side stand is not the correct one or is bent.
You could put a spacer plate between the stand's plate and its matching plate welded to the frame.
Cheers,
Mike

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:31 pm
by jabcb
I think it should look like this:
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Do you have a picture of the frame side stand area without the motor?

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:18 pm
by tz375
The angle from frame to stand looks very different on the black bike compared to Redzone.

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:21 pm
by Alan H
Either bent stand, bent mounting plate or twisted frame mount.
Packing piece between stand and frame sounds like an idea though.
Even a couple of washers there might help.

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:52 pm
by Coyote
The angle from frame to stand looks very different on the black bike compared to Redzone.
Yes. Very different. That's why I tried to bend in the pivot point on this bike, but due to the factory welded in gusset, I was unable to go far enough

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:48 am
by jabcb
Coyote wrote:
The angle from frame to stand looks very different on the black bike compared to Redzone.
Yes. Very different. That's why I tried to bend in the pivot point on this bike, but due to the factory welded in gusset, I was unable to go far enough
I'd be rather careful about trying to bend the pivot point.

My T500 used to lean over more than it should on the side stand.
It wasn't a problem so I really didn't think much about it.
Then one day when I was kickstarting it, the side stand broke off.
I always start it when its on the side stand, so kickstarting add a bit more load.
The kickstand bracket to frame weld had failed.
Had a shop re-weld the bracket & now have pretty much the correct lean when on the stand.

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:39 am
by pearljam724
My 550 doesn't have a bad lean. My 750 did, this is what I did. Ebay has many sellers selling stock aluminum. I purchased enough to lower my stand roughly 2.5 to 3 inches. In return, raising the lean considerably. This is just one example of a seller selling 1/4". I cut about 6 pieces roughly 2-3 inches long. Drilled holes for the kick stand bolts and stacked them. 1/4" is the thickness of a good choice, so you can adjust the height to your liking. Rather, than buying something of a different thickness. Doing the work and installing it. Turning around and not being satisfied with the new lean. http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Pieces-1-4-X- ... 417e4016a4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Look closely behind the exhaust and the gear shifter. You can somewhat see what I did. Turned out great. Image [URL=http://s420.photobucket.com/user/pearljam724/media/1976%20SUZUKI%20GT%20750/D1.jpg.html]Image

Re: Mean Lean. Don't know what to do

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:09 pm
by Coyote
I took the stand off. My son works where they use lasers and water jet machines. He is going to make me a 2" riser block, water jet machined out of aluminum He said he didn't think they had any 1 3/4 stock so I'll have to go with 2". If that turns out to be too much, I can get it milled off where I used to work. It will come to me complete with holes :D