Cylinder/head studs on Suzi T20

[jabcb]

Make sure you've connected the points up correctly as shown in the pic. Not shown in the pic is another insulator for the bolt shaft.

PointDiagram1.jpg

[doug rooney]

I have my condensor connectors on the same side as the "springy" thing. Can't thing that would make a difference?? Otherwise, it looks the same.

[H2RICK]

An easy check for a points grounding problem is to remove the points assembly and condensor from the backing plate. Insert a piece of dry card stock (un unwaxed business card works nicely) in between the points contact surfaces.
Turn your key on and use your voltmeter to check for voltage from the BASE of the point set to an engine ground. Got ANY voltage ?? Then you've got a problem with your hot wire to the points OR the wire retaining bolt OR both grounding to the base plate of the points somewhere/somehow. You MAY have a missing/damaged cylindrical insulator that fits around the bolt INSIDE the hole that the bolt passes through. This is the most common problem with grounding-out point sets....but not the only one.

[doug rooney]

thanks for the tip Rick. Will check that out tomorrow and get back to ya.

[doug rooney]

Jeeper guys, I did as Rick advised and had no voltage. Have virtually no resistance in any wires from the switch to the points. Only wires I have not checked are those behind the stator/generator but they are for lights and such. NOt sure if any of those matter??? Took some pics but of course I haven't figured out how to get the dang things to go anywhere. Still working on that. Have tried 2 different stators on this thing, different points and condensors, new ROTOR, different switch, different coils, plugs and wires all over the place and still the same. Right now, running very well on right side but intermittent at best on left (That can change to the OTHER side at any time). Must admit I have the heads torqued to about twice what the specs call for in trying to get a good seal when I thought it was compression. Some small wiring issue but I can't find it with my limited knowledge. Have the wiring diagram and "think" I have it right but who knows?? Tried different things in the switch area (moving wires around) today to no avail. Maybe when and if I get those pictures, someone can show me what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for hanging with me.....Running out of ideas of things to try today. PICS PICS PICS!!!! FREAKIN PICS!!! I detest high tech! LOL! Doug

[doug rooney]

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[doug rooney]

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[doug rooney]

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[Suzukidave]

I am really not trying to sound mean ... but .. i feel it would be best to sort all the bodgered wiring before trying to figure out why it will not run right

[jabcb]

Since you are have having trouble with the left side but the right side is good, you can do a simple test to eliminate some of the potential problems.

For the 2 temporary white-to-white & black-to-black wire connections you have at the stator, switch them out. Using additional short wires, connect left points/condenser to black wire & right points/condenser to white wire.

Repeat your tests with this setup. Does the left side still work correctly? Do you now have problems with both?

If you are going to try to run the bike with this setup, make sure to switch the spark plug leads too.

[doug rooney]

No offense taken dave. I know it's a jumbled mess from trying everything I can think of with the wires. Have done what you say before jacb BUT, I "don't think" I switched the condensor wires??? Would make a huge diff! Will give it a try. Thanks

[jabcb]

For the test:
1) if you still have trouble with the left side but the right side is good, then its the points and/or condenser
2) if it switches and you have trouble with the right side but the left is good, then its the coil, ignition lead, plug cap and/or wiring
3) if you have trouble with both sides, then you likely have multiple problems

[doug rooney]

Did as you suggested jabcb and stayed the same. RIGHT side hot, left throwing gas! I don't get it. Still messing with it. BTW: I DID switch the condensor wires in the past when I tried this. After looking at it, even I couldn't be THAT dumb! LOL!

[jabcb]

Just to make sure we are on the same page.
Wired correctly, you get good spark on right side & problem with spark on left.
Wired with points/condensers switched left with right, you get good spark on right & problem with spark on left.

Did you check the coil primary & secondary resistance?

[doug rooney]

Spark "appears" (Have those plug connectors that are transparent and can see the spark. Tried it with them off and same deal) to be good on both sides no matter which way I switch things around BUT as of now, it is still firing nicely on the right and just gas coming out on the left no matter how I switch them around. Not sure how to test coil resistance?? People have told me before but probably didn't do it right. If you explain it, please....Kindergarten simple. Thanks jab