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Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:45 am
by jabcb
Fully charge the battery. Will make test voltages easier to interpret.

Starter wouldn't spin too energetically if the battery voltage is only 12.05V. Did you use the starter?

Your multimeter might be reading low. As a test you could check the voltage of your car's battery & with the car running.

How long did it take to blow the fuse? Could be time related.
Did you have the lights on?

Wiring diagrams on SmokeRiders website: http://smokeriders.com/Technical/wiring ... grams.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Look at red wires from battery & rectifier:
1) for GT750 fuse is shown to be downstream of battery & rectifier
2) for GT380 & GT550 fuse is shown to be downstream of battery but alternator is unfused

I have GT380, GT550 & GT750 owners manuals. Wiring diagrams in these manuals show the fuse to be downstream of the battery but the alternator is unfused

This adds an additional complication that you can't completely trust the wiring diagram.

Check the resistances I mentioned with:
1) battery disconnected & fuse removed
2) battery disconnected
3) battery disconnected & rectifier disconnected

Check voltages running with and without lights.

Sorry if I ask for too many tests. Doing remote diagnostics like this makes it difficult to figure out exactly what to ask for.

Maybe someone else has some testing ideas that will make diagnostics a little less tedious.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:42 am
by jmcgill89
That's interesting....

The starter spun very well when the voltage was 12.05 V....

I'm going to try things again this afternoon....now that I have those two wire clusters in the correct places.

Perhaps my meter isn't registering correctly.

The fuse wasn't time related. I ran it at 4500-5000 RPMS for 15 seconds and it didn't blow, but when I was RIDING it, and wound it up like that it blew in 3 seconds.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses UPDATE

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:36 pm
by jmcgill89
I took the bike out again today after fixing that wire mixup.

The battery at 5000 RPMS showed about 14.7 or so volts and it increased as throttle was applied.

Definitely better than yesterday.

I took it out for a ride, and I actually got it into 4th gear, and it was just fine. I revved it up to 5k while accelerating, and it didn't die...it didn't miss either. Smoked like a demon, but it always does that. (and it's running premix along with the oil pump now).

When I got home, I checked the wires for heat and they were not hot.

I'm going to ride it for a longer distance tomorrow, but, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:25 pm
by oldjapanesebikes
jabcb wrote:Maybe someone else has some testing ideas that will make diagnostics a little less tedious.
jabcb - you clearly know more than most about electrical testing and troubleshooting - I've been reading through several of your posts and find your suggestions quite useful and also easy to follow. Something for you to consider might be for you to compile them into one post under a new topic ('Electrical Troubleshooting Tips' perhaps) in the 'Repairs' section which then could be made a 'sticky' for permanent reference. I think then we would all benefit. 8)

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:41 pm
by Suzsmokeyallan
I have a question, when you mixed up the two connectors did you notice the wire colours on each side of each cavity not matching?

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:46 pm
by jmcgill89
Where I got screwed up was with the colors of the connectors. I mistakenly put blue with blue and didn't double check. I feel like a real dope.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:04 pm
by Suzsmokeyallan
I feel like a real dope.
Nah,,, its mistake someone can make, but I know you certainly wont make that one again. The Oregon regulator has a 'pot' on the base of it that varies the output within a range of 0.5 volt.
Usually the middle position of the screw slot equally from full left to full right is the stock setting, just in case you are wondering.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:53 pm
by Madbuffalo
oldjapanesebikes wrote:
jabcb wrote:Maybe someone else has some testing ideas that will make diagnostics a little less tedious.
jabcb - you clearly know more than most about electrical testing and troubleshooting - I've been reading through several of your posts and find your suggestions quite useful and also easy to follow. Something for you to consider might be for you to compile them into one post under a new topic ('Electrical Troubleshooting Tips' perhaps) in the 'Repairs' section which then could be made a 'sticky' for permanent reference. I think then we would all benefit. 8)
I'll second that. :up: My bike wouldn't be running right now if it weren't for jabcb's direction.

Re: GT 550 blowing fuses

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:44 am
by jabcb
jmcgill89 wrote:I'm going to ride it for a longer distance tomorrow, but, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Good luck.

Oldjapanesebikes & madbuffalo, I agree that a 'sticky' electrical tips is a good idea. Doesn't take very long for a thread to be buried too deep for people to find. A good task for a rainy day with nothing to do.