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Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:58 pm
by pjmcburney
Suzukidave wrote:The needles and needle jets sure were worn .. needing replacement
Yup, that's very, very common.


The issue is the plastic slide guide, as I said.

Here's the pisser... they are unobtanium as a separate part from Mikuni :wth: .
Otherwise, you'd just replace the guides at the same time as the needles and needle jets and you'd be good for another five years or so, instead of only approx 5000km, which is how long it takes for the needles to rattle themselves to oblivion in the jets with the slides banging about all over the place.

If there's anyone out there willing to re-manufacture the guides in a harder plastic to prevent wear, they'd be able to rake it in from the vast numbers of GSX-R owners with knackered carbs!

You haven't got a 3D printer handy at all?

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:08 pm
by Suzukidave
tz375 wrote:Dave, The carbs should have the model number laser etched on body somewhere. It will be something like 35F or whatever and that should help you to identify what they originally came from.
The only #'s i see on the carbs are 41C1 and K1X2

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:03 am
by Suzukidave
Another google search found my answer " the '41c1' is part of a suzuki part number (denoting '92 1100) "

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:59 am
by tz375
If you can get a manual for a 92 1100 it will give you all the jet settings and they usually refer to the model numbers as well. Don't be confused by codes like E03, E28 etc. Those are Country or California codes.

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:21 am
by pjmcburney
Geez get with the program Rich :roll: , ya don't need a manual, just go here.


Tell ya what Dave...
If those carbs don't end up doing it for you, I might be tempted to take them off your hands.

They'd likely work a treat on my '92 GSX-R1100 :wink: :

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Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:50 am
by Suzukidave
Nice 92 :up: i sure wish the 86 looked that great .. i asked about the mounting of the 92 carbs on the 86 engine on the Oil Cooled GSXR site i joined http://www.gixxer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but no reply after several days . I guess no one has the answer or they dont want to help the newbe :roll:

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:26 pm
by Suzukidave
All 8 intakes i have here are the 06B0 type and are for the stock carbs .. i bet i need the 40C0 for the 92 carbs ? as the ones i have now are just too tight :shock:

13110-40C0
13120-40C0
13130-40C0
13140-40C0



13110-06B0
13120-06B0
13130-06B0
13140-06B0

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:00 pm
by Suzukidave
40C0 .. i bet this is what i need http://www.ebay.com/itm/00-2000-SUZUKI- ... 18&vxp=mtr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ...... hope so as i purchased them . Anyone need some stock 86~88 GSXR1100 intakes ?

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:01 pm
by Suzukidave
Well as my luck runs the intakes on the old broke engine were attached with allen head screws that came off easy ... but .. the ones on the good engine thats already installed in the frame had the intakes screwed on with philips and out of 8 screws 4 decided to come out and the other 4... uh... no... so the heads had to be drilled off . I had to remove the oil lines to the head to make room for drilling and that was luckly as one of the oil lines where it attached to the head had no O ring on it .. so the PO must have been in there :roll:

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:06 pm
by pjmcburney
Man, Dave, this thing is fighting you all the way :roll: .

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:42 pm
by Suzukidave
pjmcburney wrote:Man, Dave, this thing is fighting you all the way :roll: .
Tell me about it :lol: i should learn my lesson with these cheap projects that turn into not so cheap projects and i am not even trying to restore this bike .. just get it ride able :wth:

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:36 pm
by pjmcburney
You know, it seems a little odd that you couldn't fit the '92 carbs on the '86 manifolds.


I've just fitted a set of '92 GSX-R750 carbs (38mm powerjet) to a mate's GSX1100-engined Harris.
They went on the stock GSX manifold rubbers with nary a problem, and they normally carry 34mm carbs :wth: .

Surely the '92 carbs aren't that much bigger OD?

Or, maybe the bolt-on manifolds are less able to be stretched :? .

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:18 pm
by Suzukidave
The 92 carbs measured 40mm on the outside and the stock intakes measure 36~37mm id so its a stretch and it was impossible to get all 4 carbs in the mounts .

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:55 pm
by Suzukidave
I received the 40C0 intakes and the 40mm carbs slip right in so they are what i needed for sure :up:

Re: 86 GSXR 1100

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:03 pm
by Suzukidave
Also got a great deal on the K&N filters as the bike came with no air box , i havent seen them this cheap for brand new real K&N's with free shipping :up: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390617483755?ss ... 1439.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;